Before all this "Genshin finally could" dies down before their irredeemable community creates a new mess and all players forget about Liu Wei's crying apology and promise in the livestream...
Let this miserable, stinky yapping post reflect a mirror to the history of Genshin and Honkai past from a guy who likes to pretend that someone actually cares that he's been playing MiHoYo games for 11 years and have a superiority complex thinking he has a better knowledge of Honkai story simply because he's old that he deserves to be patronized (because I am.)
Genshin was a game that was supposed to have a relation with Honkai lore from that one Weibo post MiHoYo had made when asking the Honkai community what name is suited for this new game. Which in turn they had agreed all upon to name it Original God. Which probably a decision of the devs, and the comments are just inspiration.
At the beginning, all of their beta testers are of course their community that they built, and when it was released, the best supporters of their game are the Honkai community who are happy to point out references that are similar to them, theory craft during those years where Honkai lore is too fragmented and scarce to connect so they try to make sense something in Genshin to apply it in Honkaiverse, which can be found in Nagazora arc with Dvalin as easter egg.
Honkai community are very welcoming at the beginning for new players and new community since it's the first large game to be outside Honkai IP yet seem to have similar elements in Honkai in terms of writing (Venti is the very first to be an obvious reference)
That's until the landslide success of MiHoYo in Genshin that 10cent had negotiate of trying to buy MiHoYo. They refused a behemoth company that swallows every indie developers or aspiring game companies into their company and those who don't want their IP to be bought will be tormented by their best keyboard puppies filling their hate comment qouta until they are forced to shut their company, be bought or sue 10cent which 10cent are willing to entertain with how huge they are and their CCP as backing to punish them with massive compensation loss so they can't dare to fight anymore.
And unfortunately for them, MiHoYo had already secured a success that 10cent can't no longer afford to chew. MiHoYo can now challenge their reign so if they can't buy them any longer, it's time to use their arsenal for the better.
Tencent keyboard puppies did their job when they made HI3 players hate Genshin with that stupid youtube bait war that even involves Arknights, and with that, MiHoYo and their other games had been subjected to hate all because of 10cent dogs inside Genshin.
Instead of a uniform and shared community filled with pointing references and enjoyment, things shifted for the worse and the old fanbase from MiHoYo became annoyed from the ignorance and pointless repetition of misinformation from Genshin.
With something so simple misunderstanding that they try to keep correcting and boast until it reaches the snapping point.
[Insert Genshin reference "from Genshin Impact?"]
[Genshin reference but "insert a characteristic or color difference]
[OMG a Genshin character but insert different characteristics]
[Archons>Herrschers]
These silly little comments that the Honkai community tried to keep correcting are enough to set them into a seething rage against the obnoxious normies who can't correct their information. It wasn't instant, it was a gradual change until they realized that there's no point arguing with people who keep repeating the same things, same power arguments endlessly.
At first those comments are actually from ignorants, until some saw that it triggers Honkai community, until it turned into fun, until it turned to full bloodbath YouTube, with all the discussions of who's stronger, who's referenced who, to the point that the triggered Honkai community are just being lead to ridiculous idiotic comments that Genshin was released first and Honkai copied them.
Added with the unfortunate year of 2020 where westoids in twitter brought their attitude and idiocracy, that's all the reason they need on why the Honkai community should hate Genshin and changed their attitude towards it.
10cent bots successfully weaponized hate make rift between the close community before.
But it wasn't enough, it's good to involve other communities such as Arknights as well, the youtube account named "Laurent" becomes a massive troll master that also successfully baited Arknights community into hating Genshin.
But the effect instead is Honkai community having the closest relationship with Genshin was subjected to ridicule and hate from other communities as well while also trying to separate themselves from the heights and lights that the obnoxious Genshin community reached.
As long as they are made by the same company, they both deserve getting hate.
The hot shit mess of Inazuma, justifying the content leak culture, Cai Haoyu's stingy handling of Genshin in terms of rewarding it's players turned their hate to Honkai for receiving better rewards and them treating the company as an investment under the argument of: "We made your company successful and earn millions so we should be treated better than your dead game"
Which in turn Honkai players retaliated for their demanding attitude, and then turned into them being called white knights which triggers them again.
Until the fated day of 1st anniversary, which cemented themselves as the punching bag and the most hated and toxic gacha community to ever exist.
It's that day where the relationship between the two could never be mended again. All because they refused to gatekeep and ignore.
It's easier to hate than to gatekeep or to ignore.
Gatekeeping in their arguments means that people just don't want to bring new players to MiHoYo for them to profit if that's their attitude. They don't want that, so instead, they endured this massive ridicule.
Ignoring in their arguments means that if no one gives them attention, they will stop all their misinformations. Tough luck, people cares about the game's reputation as a fan, people's patience and pretend ignore have limits. Once it reaches the maximum endurance, people will snap to defend and clean their game's name as those misinformation will only be used by content creators to create dramas, and give the game a bad perspective which in turn will trigger the community again because of the false knowledge a newbie said.
Few good apples in the Genshin community are hard to pick, it's easy to generalize the hate than to nitpick defiining what's a good Genshin player or not.
10cent was not successful in their plan, but the damage they left was irreversible, and even becomes worse when they brought CCP into gaming.
MiHoYo being forced to be part of CCP.
CCP forever changing their videogames with "chinese representation", "no Japanese VA in their CN server", "time limit in the game screen" and so on.
The longer they keep hating, the Honkai community ultimately changes and becomes as toxic and as idiot as the thing they hated the most.
As I said repeatedly years ago, 2021 until early 2023 is the most toxic, garbage, and retarded the Honkai community had become. Elysian Realm which is a masterful great arc has been ruined by misinformation and hatred brought by the same people who would look at CN spoilers with MTL translations and think they already knew the full story and hate the shit out of it and completely silent when their story is completely wrong.
The Honkai community who were before, filled with old school otakus that can outBlue the Archives with how much lolis there are in the game (Sin Mal supremacy)
From Honkai community that enhance their immersion by lore crafting and having PhD in scifi and philosophy to make the scene more impactful and depressing, hating the writers gor making them cry and hostage them with sweet rewards each episodes.
From depressed and proud community seeing the peak growth of their protagonist from Everlasting Flames and funding a academy in China to horny brainlets after Elysia and Morbius was released.
And now, to pretentious, legally blind, media illiterates. Zero logic and rationality in the things they hate.
It's also only at this quarantine frame that Honkai community ruined themselves and got divided from the inside.
CN servers from being well respected and the most active in making efforts to make great contents to share to others, until people realized they are just a bunch of cry babies crying over playable males and being such an incel cucks that they tried to assassinate MiHoYo CEOs by going at their entrance (no one got hurt as they saw him immediately) simply because their supposed Chinese figure character twerked towards the westerners and not to them.
Global servers from being absolute normal fucking people who understands internet media culture nuances to being absolute retarded, including the fact that the westoid twitter attitude (of putting rights over pixels than actually to real victims suffering) infected the otaku culture and them sucking the cock of CN when the discussion is about playable males despite hating them for taking their anniversary rewards like a bunch of cucks.
SEA server from... Having full of great artists dating their Seele Dakimuras inside cafes while their fans keep reusing their arts and memes for decades like a recycled condom even if it's no longer relevant at the course of the current story to... Still the same attitude I guess?
When HSR was revealed, it brought massive hypes, albeit lowkey hate since it is a turn based game.
But when most saw in CBT that their gacha and equipments follows Genshin's constellation and relics, having "Honkai" in it's name no longer matters as it is just a damn Genshin to them.
And during the release, you already know the game's own drama with Genshin.
Dr. Ratio is one and the one that popularized "Genshin could never"
Honkai community nowadays, their hate are no longer as intense as before since everything about it became a part of the community subculture to hate towards them and stereotype against them which turns it from big deal to hate from before, to normal thing to hate. But their idiocracy, pretentiousness, and illiteracy had become so common that discussing actual lores and power scaling no longer holds value with how much they overestimate their favorite Honkai characters that they even force it here in HSR.
Evidently with Welt. Welt is very humble, smart, heroic yet blindly follows someone's legacy that he doesn't even care if the people besides him cry after he's gone as long as the world is safe. But the community gives him ridiculous claims that the memes about him being "Gojo" is just a reflection of how the community wants to see him and not how he actually is.
And with that, concludes the relationship of Honkai and Genshin and how Genshin changed the 11 year old game community within just 4 years.
I've been a watcher, since the beginning of times and until now, I've seen shits that shits and hits that hits.
I religiously love Honkai from the games and community or else, I won't sacrifice half of my life that I lived, playing this game.
I love the game
I love the unbelievable philosophy of the story
I love the discussions made in the community
I love the company's visions towards this series
I love the pioneers that visions the game
I love the improvements it took in it's journey
I have something that I hated in the game
I hate the lackluster writing they made towards the end
I hate the community so much
I hate some of the choices the company had made
I hated the direction of their choices that leads to this point
I dislike the changes they made that took things more tedious
Yet here I am still, loving the game. Knowing it's best and absolute worst and disgusting qualities yet can't help to still keep playing it.
If that isn't love, then I'm just an idiot. Which I am.
I have superiority complex forged by time, I am as idiot as rabid dog if I see stupid and pretentious little shits that talks about things they don't have the full knowledge about and be smug about it.
Genshin lives in the house of my mind that pays the rent with my hatred.
Yet I yearn for great conversations to find the feel of joy seeing others appreciate my thoughts from the discussions I made, from the clever writings in the game that the writers cooked. Old thematic writings of MiHoYo spilling in their new stories as a thought foundation that could never be remove in the game's ultimate nature and message that some people might not realized but I do.
And I want the people to keep remembering the roots and origin of this game even with the countless change of the people that played it.
Penacony might be a philosophy yapping fest for others, but for a old idiot like me, it's like a love letter sent from Taisho era that collected all of the reference as much as they can to complete a brief story reimagining their masterful themes and the convey the same messages I cried back in days with new faces to love and follow.
"As long as you remember, this story will forever remain."
Sorry about that, just ignore this attention seeker idiot with his cringe writing and obviously triggered post.
